Frames of Space

Politics discussion and stuff of that sort, hosted by Andrew Xu. Episodes air every other Thursday.

Episodes

2 hours ago

1 hr 5 min

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Jennifer Pahlka is the author of Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better, which highlights the myriad of reasons why the US government often fails to successfully implement the laws it passes.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with her about why government bureaucrats are so important, the tension between accountability to process and accountability to outcome, and how to make laws easier to implement once they get passed.
Show Notes:
Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better by Jennifer Pahlka
"Minoritarianism Is Everywhere" by Steve Teles, Foreign Affairs
"In Defense of the deep state" by Francis Fukuyama, Asia Pacific Journal of Public Administration

2 hours ago

1 hr 5 min

Oct 22, 2026

58 min

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Emma Camp is a senior editor at Free Expression, a newsletter in the opinion pages of The Wall Street Journal. She is known for her cultural commentary on subjects like mental health, gender relations, and the myriad of ways that Gen Zers are shaping up to be very different from their predecessors.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with her about the prevalence of therapy culture, the nature of modern marriage, and why Gen Z tends to be disproportionately afraid of rejection compared to earlier generations.
Show Notes
"Lindsay Clancy Isn’t an Everywoman" by Emma Camp, WSJ Opinion
This American Ex-Wife: How I Ended My Marriage and Started My Life by Lyz Lenz
The Dignity of Dependence: A Feminist Manifesto by Leah Libresco Sargeant

Oct 22, 2026

58 min

Oct 15, 2026

50 min

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Peter Wildeford is the Head of Policy at The AI Policy Network and a board member at the Institute for AI Policy and Strategy (AIPS). He is also a member of the AI safety community, and has dedicated his career to controlling the pace of AI progress so that it doesn't get out of our control. He believes that there is a non-trivial chance that AI growth might lead to mass catastrophe for the world, or even the extinction of the human species.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with him about why it's so important to take action on AI as soon as possible, the concept of AI misalignment, and how AI agents are often grown rather than built.
Show Notes
"Pacing the Frontier" by Peter Wildeford, The Power Law

Oct 15, 2026

50 min

Oct 8, 2026

1 hr 42 min

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Darby Saxbe is a professor of psychology at the University of Southern California and the writer behind the Substack "Natal Gazing." She is known for her research on parenthood and family formation.
Lyman Stone is a Senior Fellow and Director of the Pronatalism Initiative at the Institute for Family Studies. He writes about how to address declining birth rates on his own Substack.
Darby and Lyman have argued with each other quite a bit online, but this is the first time they've ever spoken to each other in a live conversation.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with them about the extent to which pro-family policies can raise birth rates, the gap between liberals and conservatives on fertility rates, and how to fix our current levels of societal distrust.
Show Notes
"Why family-friendly policies don’t boost birth rates" by John Burn-Murdoch, The Financial Times
"It's Right-Wing to Love Your Family" by Lyman Stone

Oct 8, 2026

1 hr 42 min

Oct 1, 2026

1 hr 4 min

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Annie Lowrey is a staff writer at The Atlantic who focuses on economic issues like welfare policy, income inequality, and what an ideal tax policy would look like. She is the author of the recent book The Time Tax: How the Government Wastes Our Time—and How to Fix It.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with her about why it's so painful to file taxes in the US, why American bureaucracy is so cumbersome for so many people, and how Democrats and Republicans both contribute to the problem in their own ways.
Show Notes
The Time Tax: How the Government Wastes Our Time―and How to Fix It by Annie Lowrey
"The optimal amount of fraud is non-zero" by Patrick McKenzie, Bits About Money
Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson

Oct 1, 2026

1 hr 4 min

Sep 24, 2026

1 hr 32 min

Cassie Pritchard is a leftist and a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. She recently got into an online debate with Substack writer Scott Alexander about the direction that the US should take its economy: Scott believes that the country should focus more on economic growth, while Cassie believes that the country should focus more on reducing income inequality through redistribution.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with her about the main differences between liberals and leftists, why she thinks many liberals are disdainful of democracy these days, and the extent to which social media algorithms are a byproduct of capitalist incentives.
Show Notes
Cassie Pritchard's tweet on liberal happiness
"Contra Pritchard On Liberal Happiness" by Scott Alexander, Astral Codex Ten
"Liberalism Really Is Exhausted" by Cassie Pritchard
"Re: Re: Re: Pritchard On Liberal Happiness" by Scott Alexander, Astral Codex Ten
"Subjective Well-Being, Income, Economic Development and Growth" by Daniel W. Sacks, Betsey Stevenson, and Justin Wolfers, Brookings
"This is Why People Hate the Government" from The Ezra Klein Show

Sep 24, 2026

1 hr 32 min

Sep 17, 2026

55 min

Kevin Williamson is a national correspondent at The Dispatch, and he's one of the most incisive commentators on the American right these days. His commentary covers political issues like Trump's hold on the Republican Party, foreign policy issues like NATO's changing relationship with the US, and economic issues like why taxes need to increase in the future.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with him about the problems with the US's federal budget deficit, why he wants to cut spending on Social Security, and the lasting effect that the MAGA movement will have on the US's standing with the rest of the world.
Show Notes
"Witless Ape Rides Helicopter" by Kevin Williamson, National Review
Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson
"Ignoring Scarcity at Our Own Peril" by Kevin Williamson, The Dispatch

Sep 17, 2026

55 min

Sep 10, 2026

1 hr 9 min

Jeremiah Johnson is a staff writer at The Argument and a co-founder of the Center for New Liberalism. He is known for his commentary on social media; specifically, the effect that social media appears to be having on American politics in an age when liberalism seems to be under attack.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with him about which specific mediums of communication incentivize productive disagreement, whether social media is truly biased against liberals, and the effect that the online world might be having on social trust in the present day.
Show Notes
"Social media is populist and polarising; AI may be the opposite" by John Burn-Murdoch, The Financial Times
"The end of the gatekeepers" by John Burn-Murdoch, The Financial Times
"Can liberalism survive the algorithm?" by Jeremiah Johnson, The Argument
"Heterodox Research Roundup, June 2026" by Erin B. Shaw, Shiri Spitz Siddiqi, Dylan Selterman, and Phong P. Truong
Stephen Colbert Roasts Bush at 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner
"Young people are rich and miserable" by Jeremiah Johnson, The Argument
"Weekly Scroll: Freaks and Gatekeepers" by Jeremiah Johnson, Infinite Scroll

Sep 10, 2026

1 hr 9 min

Sep 3, 2026

45 min

Ruy Teixeira is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a co-founder of the Substack newsletter "The Long View." He is known for co-authoring the 2002 book The Emerging Democratic Majority. The book argued that a series of structural shifts in the country, such as a growing nonwhite population and the politics of young voters, were quietly tilting the electoral terrain in the Democratic Party's favor.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with him about his objections to left-wing Democratic politics, the concept of the pundit's fallacy, and the manner in which he tries to speak with people that he disagrees with.
Show Notes
The Emerging Democratic Majority by John B. Judis and Ruy Teixeira
"Why Haven't the Democrats Completely Cleaned the Republicans' Clock?" from The Ezra Klein Show
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Sep 3, 2026

45 min

Aug 27, 2026

1 hr 4 min

Dan Williams is a philosopher at the University of Sussex, an associate fellow at Cambridge's Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, and the writer behind the Substack "Conspicuous Cognition." His commentary often focuses on the nature of cognitive bias, tribalism, and how all of this manifests in contemporary political discourse.
In this episode, I got a chance to speak with him about how his politics have changed since his teenage years, the extent to which social media is responsible for political extremism, and whether or not AI will end up stifling intellectual diversity through political homogenization.
Show Notes
"On becoming less left-wing (Part 1)" by Dan Williams, Conspicuous Cognition
"Social media is populist and polarising; AI may be the opposite" by John Burn-Murdoch, The Financial Times

Aug 27, 2026

1 hr 4 min

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